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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 week ago #817

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I hadn't tried both versions, I thought one was just for mobile devices. That one did work for me, thanks!

I did notice that, while your Character Designer has the Greater Alchemist Pouch loaded in, it doesn't have the Alchemist Pouch. Is that because it's so rarely used? Similar to the Bone Scroll Case, which is also not loaded?


They don't affect the party card so they are not there.


Is the Greater Alchemist Pouch bonus captured on the Party Card? I didn't see it, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot.


Nope. I cannot say why it was included just why the others weren't. Maybe because it gives a stat bump (+1 to drinking potions) even if it isn't recorded on the party card? Just a guess though.


Rules for inclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Affects a stat recorded on the party card
  • Equips in a limited slot
  • Has a persistent effect that has high potential to be tracked on the party card either for a single year or ongoing in the future

Automatic exclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Temporary effect (e.g. lamp of the efreeti)
  • Consumed through use (e.g. ammo, potions, etc.)*
  • Has no stated effect (e.g. bedroll)
  • Has no in-game effect (e.g. currency, trade tokens)
* Unless the effect persists for the entire adventure (e.g. Scroll Mage Armor, Runestones, etc.)

The basic alchemist pouch is borderline for the third inclusion rule but the bump the Greater Alchemist Pouch yields has potential for tracking.

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Last edit: by Amorgen Burke.

Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 week ago #818

Version 2017.14 Notes
  • Fixed Sacred Runestone to show the added damage type in ranged rather than melee

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 week ago #819

Amorgen Burke wrote: Rules for inclusion (only 1 has to be met):

  • Affects a stat recorded on the party card
  • Equips in a limited slot
  • Has a persistent effect that has high potential to be tracked on the party card either for a single year or ongoing in the future

Automatic exclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Temporary effect (e.g. lamp of the efreeti)
  • Consumed through use (e.g. ammo, potions, etc.)
  • Has no stated effect (e.g. bedroll)
  • Has no in-game effect (e.g. currency, trade tokens)

If only I could pin an individual post...
Have you looked it up in the TDb ?
Please post TDb corrections in this thread .
If I write something in teal, it should not be taken seriously

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 week ago #820

Druegar wrote:

Amorgen Burke wrote: Rules for inclusion (only 1 has to be met):

  • Affects a stat recorded on the party card
  • Equips in a limited slot
  • Has a persistent effect that has high potential to be tracked on the party card either for a single year or ongoing in the future

Automatic exclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Temporary effect (e.g. lamp of the efreeti)
  • Consumed through use (e.g. ammo, potions, etc.)
  • Has no stated effect (e.g. bedroll)
  • Has no in-game effect (e.g. currency, trade tokens)

If only I could pin an individual post...


Maybe have a section of the Forum similar to Jeff's "Token Pronouncements" Section, where significant info like this can be captured and easily accessible. It could also link back to the original post, for context.

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 week ago #821

Amorgen Burke wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: I hadn't tried both versions, I thought one was just for mobile devices. That one did work for me, thanks!

I did notice that, while your Character Designer has the Greater Alchemist Pouch loaded in, it doesn't have the Alchemist Pouch. Is that because it's so rarely used? Similar to the Bone Scroll Case, which is also not loaded?


They don't affect the party card so they are not there.


Is the Greater Alchemist Pouch bonus captured on the Party Card? I didn't see it, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot.


Nope. I cannot say why it was included just why the others weren't. Maybe because it gives a stat bump (+1 to drinking potions) even if it isn't recorded on the party card? Just a guess though.


Rules for inclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Affects a stat recorded on the party card
  • Equips in a limited slot
  • Has a persistent effect that has high potential to be tracked on the party card either for a single year or ongoing in the future

Automatic exclusion (only 1 has to be met):
  • Temporary effect (e.g. lamp of the efreeti)
  • Consumed through use (e.g. ammo, potions, etc.)
  • Has no stated effect (e.g. bedroll)
  • Has no in-game effect (e.g. currency, trade tokens)

The basic alchemist pouch is borderline for the third inclusion rule but the bump the Greater Alchemist Pouch yields has potential for tracking.


I guess if the Alchemist Pouch is ever added to the database in the future, that's a good sign that there might be something that affects potions in the Dungeon soon. The Bone Scroll Case and something affecting scrolls would be a similar situation. ;)

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 3 days ago #822

Decay and Chaos Runestones do not indicate the Acid damage type when equipped. Also, the Orb of Acid does not show up as a Ranged Thrown weapon.
"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view" - Obi Wan Kenobi

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #823

+1 Fae Blowgun Flute is only equippable by bard, yet it's available to all classes when I looked it up in the tokendb.

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #824

Ian Lee wrote: +1 Fae Blowgun Flute is only equippable by bard, yet it's available to all classes when I looked it up in the tokendb.


You're misinterpreting the token - anyone can use it.

Only Bards get its bonus effect.

The class availability list goes in small font above the hands - if nothing is listed then it's usable by all, for example:

tokendb.com/token/1-thrall-faerie-iron-skull/

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Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.

Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #825

That's what I'm saying. In the workbook, cannot equip it to barbarian, et al, even though it should be. The only class where the workbook allows equipping is bard.

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #826

Ian Lee wrote: That's what I'm saying. In the workbook, cannot equip it to barbarian, et al, even though it should be. The only class where the workbook allows equipping is bard.


It appears that it is I am who doing the misinterpreting :laugh:

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #827

Rob F wrote: Decay and Chaos Runestones do not indicate the Acid damage type when equipped. Also, the Orb of Acid does not show up as a Ranged Thrown weapon.


Orb of Acid is a one use item. Since it would only be useful in one round of one combat, it is excluded from the character generator.

I have to figure out how to handle Acid. The reason it isn't showing ties into the fact that it isn't tracked currently on the party card except as a comment. There is some infrastructure that has to be tweaked to add it to the individual tabs and I'm not sure what I'll do about the party card since I need to be in sync with the official card and there is no specific place for it today.

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Amorgen's Character Designer (Excel Spreadsheet) 7 years 1 day ago #828

Amorgen Burke wrote:

Rob F wrote: Decay and Chaos Runestones do not indicate the Acid damage type when equipped. Also, the Orb of Acid does not show up as a Ranged Thrown weapon.


Orb of Acid is a one use item. Since it would only be useful in one round of one combat, it is excluded from the character generator.

I have to figure out how to handle Acid. The reason it isn't showing ties into the fact that it isn't tracked currently on the party card except as a comment. There is some infrastructure that has to be tweaked to add it to the individual tabs and I'm not sure what I'll do about the party card since I need to be in sync with the official card and there is no specific place for it today.


Ah...ok. Gotcha.
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