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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #13

  • sellout23
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Tulz Amulet Crown- Sorry guys, but this amulet is just too powerful atm! Maybe restrict the second amulet granted to a Rare or lower. We would also have to decide if 4 combo amulets are allowed.  That should stop some of the crazy combos at the ultra level. The artwork seems to need just a little purple glow

Girdle of Might-Love this change. It still has the power to give some classes +2 hit and damage. While also giving the powerful Might Set benefit at a cost. Love it!

Ring of Protection +2- Liked the old picture better.

Lenses of True Sight- Look great!
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STR:23   DEX:15  CON:16   INT:12  WIS:17  CHA:10               
HP:35   AC:16   SAVES: Fort:+14  Ref:+12  Will:+16
Greater Flurry Melee: +1 Dragonfist Bracer/Quivering Bracer  Hit:+10/+9  Min Damage:14/13  Max Damage:19/20
Ranged Combat(thrown): +1 Keen Handaxe   Hit:+5    Min Damage:8   Max Damage:15
Combat Enhancers: Necklace of Oak, Girdle of Might, Mithral Gauntlets, Crown of Might, Ring of Frost, Boots of Might, Lenses of Accuracy
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #14

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So if I wear that crown, could I use two HoG to wear four rings?

I don't think one UR to change that slot to another slot is bad (again, HoG), especially considering the choice of Head slot items.  And there is also the fact that if you have a wish, you can wish for two neck slots without having to give up any slot.

So, could I wish for a neck slot, and wear this crown to get three neck slots?
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #15

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Boots of Might - +3 is too much. Some fifth level characters will pick up 10 hit points with this one item on top of getting extra hit points for being 5th level from the might set.  Plus, with Con enhancement items now out of the bag, I'm sure there will be other items in the future.

Wil's Dragonheart - Awesome pic

Tulz's Crown - Too powerful .  Makes me wonder what tough choices Jeff has in mind down the road for the head slot. Right now I don't see them.

Lenses of True Sight - I like the new pic.

Tome of Trickery - like the new wording
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #16

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Ack!  Looks like the torches are being lit and the pitchforks are being sharpened.

To be clear, I didn't toss this idea in the ring because I wanted to scramble the balance of URs, it was just an idea of UR that held things (I thought appropriate, given that I spend the pre and post con hauling around a huge amount of gear) ... and I wasn't the only one who initially thought this idea might be good one *cough*.

I don't mind if this gets nerfed, changes or outright replaced, I just offered it as a cool non-theif thing that held stuff.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #17

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  • Tulz's Amulet Crown- Agree with most everyone that this is extremely powerful as currently designed.

  • Girdle of Might- I like the change.

  • Ring of Protection +2- I also liked the old image better than the current version.

  • Mithral Boots/Boots of Might- Both look good, but I agree that it looks like the images were switched?

  • Lenses of True Sight- Love these!  It may sound silly, but- the image change makes me want to pick this UR up...  =D

  • Ioun Stone Blue Pearl- I was going to pick it up; I agree that it was (perhaps too) specific to this year, but liked having the option of negating the water penalties by investing in a UR.  I'm disappointed it's gone.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #18

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  • Tulz's Amulet Crown- Agree with most everyone that this is extremely powerful as currently designed.

  • Girdle of Might- I like the change.

  • Ring of Protection +2- I also liked the old image better than the current version.

  • Mithral Boots/Boots of Might- Both look good, but I agree that it looks like the images were switched?

  • Lenses of True Sight- Love these!  It may sound silly, but- the image change makes me want to pick this UR up...  =D

  • Ioun Stone Blue Pearl- I was going to pick it up; I agree that it was (perhaps too) specific to this year, but liked having the option of negating the water penalties by investing in a UR.  I'm disappointed it's gone.





The Crown will lead to someone wearing an Amulet of Wonder and a Horn of Plenty.  It will happen.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #19

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Tulz's Crown - Too powerful .  Makes me wonder what tough choices Jeff has in mind down the road for the head slot. Right now I don't see them.



Choices:
Crown of Might (effective +2 to Str, completes set)
Mithral Cap (+1 AC, special undead protection, completes set)
Dragonscale Helm (+2 AC, -1 Fire, completes set)
Circlet of Elemental Mastery (maximizes damage)

And what amulets are there to take its place?  Medallion of Greyhawk, AoW, HoP, Amulet of Oak, Torq of Natural Armor, Barkskin Amulet, Amulet of Thorns.  Other than the first three, I can't see any that I would replace a helmet with.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #20

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The crown breaks three sets:
Dragonscale - cost: 2AC and 8pts fire DR
Might - cost: +1 to hit/+1 damage, 5th level power TBD, in rare cases +1 level
Mithral - cost: 1AC, immunity to undead mind control, 5th level power, in rare cases 1/2 damage from breath attack

IMO there are four powerful amulets (HoP, AoW, MoG, HoG), but when I'm with my group, no one person has (or will have) more than one of the "powerful" four.  By myself, I would have access to them, and that would be a tough choice; just the kind of choices Jeff loves us to have to make.

For my group I'll probably get a few (2 or so), but I won't get 8 as they break too many other "great" things and even I don't have the amulets to take advantage of the power.  So, IMO, while seemingly very powerful, there are nice balancing aspects to the crown; and I suspect in the future the choices will be even more difficult.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #21

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So if I wear that crown, could I use two HoG to wear four rings?


Same name items do not stack.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #22

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Oi.. major last-minute changes..

Ring of Protection - Please go back to the original picture, it was much more engaging and interesting then a plain gold band. (Unless we get some Mordor-inscription on the inside.  ;/ )

Boots of Might - Do we really want one item to give an odd-constitution character an extra 8-10hp?

Lenses of True Sight - Sorry, I much preferred the old image, too.

Tome of Trickery - I like the wording change, much clearer now.

Tulz' Crown - Not a terribly good idea at first thought, I would have to say. Prior balancing of neck-slot items did tend to revolve around having to choose one over the other. Now we can wear a HoP and AoW.. or HoP and a Torc / Greyhawk Medallion / Dragontooth Necklace.

Long Bow of the Sun - Sort of looks like someone just traced the bowstring with a hi-liter pen; it feels a bit too blindingly bright.
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #23

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Yeah if the ioun stone worked the way I was hoping it did I was going to pick it up as well. 2 neck slots though... wow
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Re: Ultra Rare feedback, please! 2 years, 8 months ago #24

The crowns not too powerful I think it is a great idea.
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